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Title: "Greatest Hits" and "Through the Looking Glass"
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(Date Posted:05/27/2007 20:44:38)

The plan: As per Jack, for the first time since on the island, the lostaways know when the others are coming, and what they are after, and they have no idea that they know. So they will simply follow Juliet's instructions, rig the tents with dynamite, and blow up the party coming to take the women. Until of course, Carl comes to warn them that the group will be coming a day early. With the loss of a ehole day, the plan changes to 3 shooters posted outside the camp that will shoot at the dynamite to set it off. The three best Shooters are Sayid, Bernard, and Jin...and they are all willing to give up their lives to insure rescue for the rest of the group. We learned that Desmond had another vision of Charlie's death, and that this one ended with Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter. We have been told before that if the vision does not play out exactly like desmond saw it, the end will change....we also learned that no matter how many times Charlie is spared, his number will come up again. So Charlie resigns himself to his fate....he will die, but it will insure the rescue of Claire and Aaron. Charlie will swim down and turn off the equipment that is jamming the radio signals, then he will drown. Jack and the rest of the group will hike to the radio tower and phone for hel, once the signal is no longer jammed. All of this must be done at the same time to avoid leaving time for Ben to countermove. Ben's camp While all of the lostaways plans are being made, Ben returns to camp. Once there, we see that his control is falling apart. Everyone is questioning his motives, his decisions, his ability to rule. Richard and Alex wnat to know where Locke is. Alex had Carl warn the group about the change in plans. Richard and Price (also called Ryan (or Brian)) are obviously unnerved by Ben's orders to kill all the men while taking the women. Betrayals The island betrays Ben by helping Locke out of the pit. Jacob betrays Ben by speaking to Locke. Richard betrays Ben by giving Locke sawyer's file. Juliet betrays Ben by telling Jack her mission. Bonnie betrays Ben by giving Charlie the code. Tom and Ryan betray Ben by not killing the shooters. Patches questions the reasoning behind making Bonnie and Gretta stay in the Looking Glass, if the jamming equipment did not have to be watched in order to work. Richard and Patches questions Ben as to why he not only lied about the station, but Bonnie and Gretta's being on assignment. Alex questions why Ben won't just let the lostaways leave. Ben has lied to Alex for years about her parentage, and has tried to keep Carl away from her at all costs. Richard questions Ben's plan to talk the lostaways out of trying to get rescued. Ben tells Alex that he's handing her over to her new family. Since we assume that he has lied to Alex her whole life about her mother, we also would assume that Ben's telling Alex that Danielle is her mother was also another betrayal revelation. Bonnie says that she never questioned ben because to do so would mean the end of everything that they were trying to do. In the end, we see that many are now wondering if they have made a mistake in trusting Ben. For their protection We see both Charlie and Sawyer saying something mean to hurley, but only because they would rather hurt his feeling than risk his life by letting him go where he would not be safe. They all love Hurley. We hear Jack telling Kate that he made her promise not to come back for him because he loved her and wanted protect her. From this , we can also assume that Sawyer's comments to Kate (about the baby and not going back to the beach with her) was because he loves her and wants to protect her. If kate is pregnant, then going in harm's way would risk not only her, but his child.....on the other hand, if Kate is pregnant, Sawyer knows that staying on the island means an almost certain death for her. Both Charlie and Sayid made similar requests for promises of no turning back for them....they were both willing to die for the sake of the whole. Jack's flash-forward Jack has reached new lows in an apparent downward spiral. He sees a news article about a man found dead, and finally snaps. Just before he takes his life, he has one moment of seeming redemption....he saves a mother and child from a burning car wreck. This also proves to add to his demise, as it comes out that the accident was caused by him distracting the driver who saw him about to jump. Jack is drinking heavily, abusing drugs, using his dead father's name to try to get more drugs. We see him desperately trying to get in touch with someone, and find out that it's Kate. It appears that Kate is trying to forget all about it and move on, but Jack can't. He tells Kate that he's sick of lying, they made a mistake, they were not supposed to leave, and that they have to go back. HUH? So we see Jack going to a funeral home. He is reading the location from a newspaper clipping, a different clipping than the one he tore out on the plane. (I assume the first is the news article, the second an obit) He is told that there was no funeral, and that nobody showed up....he also told the director that he was neither family or a friend. The funeral home is in a poor innercity area, and the coffin seemed to have been rather small (at least too small for Jack to have fit into). We find out that not only was Jack broken up about the news that this man had died, but that he expected Kate to have been there too, but never mentioned anyone else from the island. I assume that the person must be someone that we will meet on the island, or soon after, or be related to someone from the island, seeing that Kate and Jack have nothing else in common prior to the island, yet Kate seemed to be offended by the thought of going to the funeral. Thanks to modern technology, we have been able to read part of the news clipping that Jack saw. I cannot however say that it is terribly important yet, since the only way we can see it is through magnified screencaps...not just by watching the show. But it does tell us that in Los Angeles, the body of a man was found. The man is J(unreadable first name) (unreadable last name)ntham from New York, and was found shortly after 4am on Grand Ave. The rest is too spotty to make sense, and all the speculation in the world will not change it's relevance to the story, so I will just assume that it's someone that we have not met yet and wait to meet them. I also wanted to point out that Jack had lots of maps in his place. He seemed to have been doing a lot of research, like he was trying to figure out where the island was. He also says that he was flying all the time (thanks to the "golden pass") hoping to crash again. This puzzled me because we know that they got off the island (that was the point of the flash forward) so even if it was not Naomi's boat, somebody found them, so why is it that Jack does not know how to get back to the island? I am only guessing, but I think that the rest of the story will be told in a combination of on island (up to the rescue) on island flashbacks (more about the others and the mysteries) off island(just before and just after rescue) and off island (present, or at least further in the future than right after the rescue, like last night) a little about timelines the jamming at Looking Glass would have had to have been after the crash, about the same time as the Swan blew...because Patches was still in communications with the outside till then. The show is scheduled to end in 2010, but Jack's flash last night seemed to have been the present 2007.....it's almost 2005 on the island. I think this means that if they keep to form, the on island story will follow the same time frame, but off island stories will also stay in the same time-frame through to the end......yay, more timeline confusion by having a whole year pass, yet only a few weeks go by on the show. We have a lot of ground to cover yet, and it will all take place in the span of about 7 weeks (48 episodes) Locke and Walt Just as any other time that Locke has lost his faith, we see Locke in the pit unable to move his legs. Locke is just about to kill himself, when we hear whispers. Well all whispers lead to strange visions....and so they do this time as well. Walt appears to help Locke. He tells him that he has to get up, because he has work to do. Walt was wearing the same clothes that he was last seen in, dirt and all, and his hair has grown. He appears as if he had not left the island. Whether he is still somewhere on the island, or far far away safe at home, I do not belive that what Locke saw was actually Walt, only another projection. We see Locke showing up just in time to kill Naomi, presumably because of something Walt told him....but we can not be sure since Locke has been Hellbent on destroying any means of rescue, eventhough he has the freedom to stay on the island. While Locke kills Noami, and threatens Jack to stay away from the phone...he does not shoot Jack, nor the phone...he only tells Jack that he is not supposed to do this. Penny and Naomi Penny comes through on the screen just after Charlie stops the jamming. I have seen this bounce around a few times, but I will try to give my POV anyway. Penny seems shocked that anyone is on that frequency. I assume this is because they were able to pinpoint the signal after the arctic guys found the location of the EMP. Penny and Charlie have a choppy conversation full of confusions on either end. When Charlie asks about Naomi and the boat...Penny asks who is Naomi and that she was not on a boat. If you take everything into context, you will see that there was no other way for Penny to have responded. She did not say that the boat had nothing to do with her, and why would she know Naomi if she were only a member of the crew that got the assignment? Naomi gave no clues that she was being dishonest, and the voice on the other end of the phone seemed pleased to help.I also gave no weight at all to anything Ben said. The truth is yet to be seen, either way, whomever is on the boat will not be happy to find out that Naomi has been murdered. loose ends Danielle wants to stay on the island, and since we assume that Alex has never left it, she will not have a problem with that.....we can also assume that Carl will want to stay with Alex. While Tom has decided that Ben can no longer be trusted, he still seems to be afraid of the lostaways. When Sawyer kills Tom, he did not seem to be broken up at all like we have seen him get over previous killings. I found his excuse to be rather telling.......revenge for Walt, but actually I think it was more about paying back a man that needlessly harmed a little boy. GO HURLEY!!!! "Attention all others" "come in all others" Sayid is a total BADASS. How priceless was the look on Ben's face when he hears Hurley on the walkie telling the others to stay away and that Sayid, Bernard, and Jin were all safe while the others (on the beach) had all been killed? Charlie's Death I saved this for last, because it has the potential to offend. You have been warned. Just like his story, and character in whole, I found Charlie's death to be superficial, and unsatisfying as a story element. There, I said it. Charlie did not have to die, he killed himself because he wanted to stay true to Desmond's vision in order to make the end come true. But Desmond's vision included nothing about a keypad, a song, or Penny's incoming message. I found it to be farfetched that Patches survived AGAIN just so that he can blow out the window in the room that Charlie is in. I also thought the addition of the code being music notes that only a musician would be able to enter a little contrived. I do not understand why Charlie chose to lock the room instead of using the diving equipment. I think it was all thought up as a way to lend some sense of "weep value" to his passing, instead of letting it be what it was....cutting off dead wood. As for Charlie's greatest hits 1)learning to swim......but he was not really swimming, his dad was holding him while he splashed around, how sad is it that that was the best memory he could come up with for his dad? 2) Hearing his song on the radio.....granted, this would be a big deal and is usually the start of any story about legendary musicians....but it happened as Charlie was quitting, and was in truth, the highest point in his music career,. The rest was all sex and drugs then being relegated to the bargin bin has one-hit wonders. 3) getting the ring from his brother....another moment that would have been good. Charlie was being trusted with a family heirloom despite the tradition of it going to the first born, because of the pretense that he was the "good" son that would go on to pass it on to his children. He was told that it MUST stay in the family. What does Charlie do with this item that made it to the top 5 memories in his life? He leaves it to the child of the woman he barely knows without any explaination of the story that came with it....and he left it in a spot that was about to be blown up, not in a bag where it would be found later when things calmed down. The ring could have been shown to Liam (after rescued) and maybe afforded Claire and Aaron a family and home with Liam, being the ones that he entrusted the ring to...but no, now it will most likely be lost forever and a long standing family tradition will die. 4) the day he was called a hero........he scared off a cowardly and unarmed purse snatcher. This was his most heroic memory. (and no, the purse snatcher was not a known character, we would have remembered the big lobe-stretching pipes in his ears) 5) the night he met Claire...........he remembers that night as the start of the relationship with her. A woman that he just met, that he knows nothing about. In the 3 months that he has known her, she was gone, then had no memory of him, then was pissed off at him, then was afraid of him, and only recently made up with him....but this is the love of his life? And his final act on Earth? Spread undue panic among the lostaways by telling them that the boat is not safe passage home, when that is not what was said (IMO). I for one am thrilled that I will no longer have to suffer through any more gag-inducing scenes that try to make him seem less pathetic, and more important to the story, than his character really was.http://community.livejournal.com/pondering_lost/114468.html#cutid1

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