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(Date Posted:12/05/2005 10:13:13)

LostinBlue
If you are going to be around for a little while, would you mind some WKD questions? "Why now?" "Because I knew you would kill him," how? Why the kiss? Kate with an Electra complex? Who is experiencing transference?. Kate wearing a white t-shirt with Wayne and a black t-shirt with Sam. An 8-year-old king. Significance? A ghost or Sawyer's feverish words internalized by Jack and Kate? Good and perfect vs. a murderous heart? On-going theme?

Adawhen
Blue? You know this is my idea of FUN!!!!!!!! The kids are all moshing to Weezer's Weeze, so now is the time!"Why now?"Partly because of what Kate said, but the biggest part of the reason you haven't been introduced to yet!"Because I knew you would kill him," how? More info. How what? Why the kiss? Kate with an Electra complex? Good God, no! Kate's feelings for Jack are not fatherly, but they are insecure. Right now, she doesn't feel she can measure up to what Jack demands of those around him. Of the people he loves. Kate is seeking the company where she feels most accepted, and where little is expected of her. Who is experiencing transference?. Everyone! Everything is going to change. As that happens, people tend to put their own fears, doubts, inhibitions on those around them. Kate wearing a white t-shirt with Wayne and a black t-shirt with Sam. The significance is minor. An 8-year-old king. Significance? A great deal! A ghost or Sawyer's feverish words internalized by Jack and Kate? Now that's a question! The scene is meant to play to the audience members "man of faith, man of science" intellect. Which did you lean toward, because in that initial choice, you were revealed. Now, who was Sawyer talking to? It comes up soon. I will say this, that Sawyer, in many ways, doesn't know who he was talking to in that moment! Good and perfect vs. a murderous heart? On-going theme? Blue? Choices, Blue. It's about our choices.
LostinBlue
I did not know. To clarify a question above, how did Sam know that Kate would kill Wayne if she found out her step-dad was really her father? Now, who was Sawyer talking to? It comes up soon. I will say this, that Sawyer, in many ways, doesn't know who he was talking to in that moment! The moment being not the one in the Swan but the moment he is (re)living in his mind?
Adawhen
Sam didn't know, but he recognized that Kate had the ability to kill for the things that she believed in. More importantly, to murder. You get more on Kate and Wayne later, so don't feel you have all of the information yet, but Blue, think of something that you cherish. That thing is damaged or destroyed, and justice seems unattainable. What's in your heart? Sam knew that Kate was capable of deadly things under certain conditions.
LostinBlue
I don't know. I would like to think I could at least try to forgive. A long, hard road that must be traveled everyday. Perhaps I wouldn't chose murder, but it would probably be in my thoughts. A clear character-defining moment. Once we learn Sarah's fate, will we see clear comparisons and contrasts between Jack's choices and Kate's choices? Is this being laid out now?
Adawhen
Blue, Jack's failures come in a different way. His culpability is in how he relates, not how he acts. The next FB on him gives you a few examples of that.


(Message edited by abraxas1954 On 04/13/2009 01:36:34)

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