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(Date Posted:10/24/2005 11:53:08)
They state that someone will die in the next new episode. Wouldn't leaking a spoiler on who is going to die be a great way to get people to not guess who the real character is that is going to die? They know that there are spoilers that a femaie regular character is going to die in the 9 November episode.... Rather than have a large percent of the viewership quess right, leak that Shannon will die, and the conversation will soon veer off the discussion - people will be smug in the knowledge that they know who it is, and WHAM!!!! someone else bites the bullet....
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(Date Posted:10/24/2005 14:21:06)
Yeah, and we went thru these mind games with Boone's death too. hehe
Regardless of who I believe it is, I see no point in killing Shannon unless Maggie herself wants off the show. I think killing Claire would open the most new storylines.
(Although my ultimate outcome would be to see Ana Lucia die!!! )
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(Date Posted:10/24/2005 18:40:31)
Yeah, I was one that thought that there would be no story propelling reason to kill Boone...and I was right, he was forgotten quickly.
I have often used the formula of who's story is told, and has nothing left to offer on the island?
If we have seen all of their back story, and they are not serving a purpose on the island (to the current story) then there is not much point in keeping them around.
It does not seem to be needed for this person's death to add to the story though. Back when Boone died, it would have opened up more story line to have had Michael die.
As with Boone's death, I think the story will not be the death, but who caused it and how......meaning that the death will not be the thing that we will be talking about the following day, but the "killer", which means that it could very well be Shannon since sleeping with Sayid and us finding out who her father was and how she became the way she is will pretty much be the end of her story.
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(Date Posted:10/25/2005 10:35:56)
Unless the death is indeed Shannon, because we are being led to belive that they just would not pull another "Boone" on us and give us the "who" again and be obvious.
I'm still voting for Claire, but it may just not happen.
But my point is that the killer will be the plot furthering element, not the death.
Meaning that, they will kill off someone no longer critical to the plot bnut the way they die and by whose hands will shock us to the point of disbelief and will create a whole new plot twist that can carry the sory for a while.
This would be the reson for the leak on who is dying, yet the huge mystery as to the how and by whose hands.
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(Date Posted:10/25/2005 10:51:38)
I know it's good for story telling, but killing someone because they don't advance the plot - is a sad way to go...... In order to remain as realistic as possible, no one should be safe, not even someone that is considered to be essential to the plot. It doesn't happen that way in real life - I know plenty of essential people that die while worthless ones keep hanging on.... IMHO....
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(Date Posted:10/25/2005 14:10:50)
killing someone because they don't advance the plot - is a sad way to go......
Agreed. So maybe Boring Plotless Person #3 isn't doing much now, but why can't they be down the road? If you want to keep a show going, get as many years as you can out this, I would think you'd want to be able to open some storylines and use some other people.
And I think the best direction this show can go right now is to kill off Ana Lucia!
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(Date Posted:10/25/2005 19:11:22)
Brax-
Since it has not been talked about too much, I really think that the male that is leaving this year will be bigger. Some of the cast was signed on before it was picked up, and were new to it. They may not have known what they were getting into, and killing them off is just what has to be done to get them off again. I was quite disappointed in the Boone death, both the way he died, and how it was handled afterwards...it was really no big deal at all...after so much hype too.
I am trying not to get my hopes up about this one.
Either Ausiello or Kristen said that impending death character's portrayer would be featured in a tv magazine. Maggie Grace was featured in Inside TV. Your thoughts?
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(Date Posted:11/02/2005 05:31:06)
Not that my thoughts count for anything.... I just feel that it was a little too easy for people to "get" the information and "spoil" the impending character death - I smell a rat (no JJ - I'm not calling you a rat - but if I were, it would be the big cuddly kind ) Last year, it was fairly easy to "guess" that Boone was going to die (and all the squeeing in the world couldn't stop it).... It was almost anti-climatic when it happened... I feel that if Shannon were to die this year, that it would have the same effect... I feel that a leak of a certain character dying and then actually having a different character die, would have more of an impact - and would ruin the credibility of most spoilers, so that if there are leaks in the future, then they won't be taken as seriously. But apparantely, that's just me.
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(Date Posted:11/02/2005 06:17:15)
But then it comes back to the whole thing with us being the fanatics who look for such clues and spoilers, and who know this stuff in advance.....when the majority of viewers don't. There is a non-Lost board that I go to, and a bunch of people there think they are big Lost fans and keep a Lost thread going, but I have to sit here and laugh at the things they find so mysterious and amazing because it's all so old to us already. An example being The Death. Many people I know are convinced that promo sets it up as Sawyer dying. The few that do know it's supposed to be a female dying are still coming up with all sorts of wild theories.
So, is it just so "obvious" to us because we are looking harder for the info? Hmmmm.
(Heck, I even know a guy who still insists Boone isn't dead because we never saw them actually bury him. The funeral was interupted by Locke showing up. lol)
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(Date Posted:11/02/2005 07:12:50)
Ah, a friend and I were just discussing this very topic and came to the conclusion that the death will indeed be very anti climatic, no matter who it is.
If the death does occur on the 9th as promised, then the very next episode will be almost exclusivly about the tail-end survivors and their first 48 days on the island (wow- the promo pics for that are awesome!)
the next episode will be Ana-centric...so unless she is the one doing the killing, it looks like the next "big" death will be just as soon forgotten as Boone's and will take a back shelf rather quickly by all of the new clues and information we will be getting.
the next episode will be Ana-centric...so unless she is the one doing the killing, it looks like the next "big" death will be just as soon forgotten as Boone's
Well, perhaps the ep will be AL-centered because she has something to do with The Death or because The Death sparks some kind of memory freak out on AL's part.
I don't think Boone's death has been forgotten, by the way. Furthermore, perhaps the importance of Boone dying was not in the death scene itself (though I did my fair share of sniffling), but in what his death is a catalyst for. Who knows what waves were started from tiny ripples: the radio call between Boone and whomever was on the other end of the radio? The discovery of a Nigerian plane and it's drug cargo? The equipment Sayid salvaged from the plane for the raft (am I misremembering that part?) that ultimately led Scurvy Pirate to kidnap Walt? Charlie taking the Mary statue? The opening of the hatch (had Boone not died, who knows what Locke and Boone would have done about opening the hatch, and/or telling the others about it) and discovering Desmond? The change in Shannon (she is not the same self-centered girl who crashed on the island)? Etc. etc. etc.
Writing Boone's death (or any future deaths, or any past "deaths" for that matter, such as Joanna, the "marshal," and Ethan) off as anticlimactic is probably a premature reaction.
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(Date Posted:11/03/2005 05:26:37)
Did I say anti-climatic? Well, yes I did, but I didn't mean that to include the results of the death, just who the death was. <-- now that's a big smile...
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(Date Posted:11/04/2005 20:13:44)
I still think that the majority of viewers don't know all the spoilers, don't routinely check the Lost sites to keep up on info, don't spend the time pondering and theorizing.......so the majority of viewers don't have these things figured out.
None of this matters anymore anyway, because I got a reply from my new boyfriend Desmond on the messageboard. *swoon*
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(Date Posted:11/08/2005 08:19:06)
What if it is Shannon that does the killing? It would be perfect to see why she is driven or feels the need to do so in her backstory. She has already shown a penchant for revenge in going after Locke thinking that he was responsible for Boone's death. Who else has shown that kind of calculating deadly behaviour?
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(Date Posted:11/08/2005 13:51:07)
But who would she kill, and why? Yeah yeah, I know.... "We'll find out soon enough" ....but it's fun to get the last minute predictions in. I watched the clips that Fed posted a link to, and one of them makes a point of Sayid's gun being set aside so I figured she later charges off into the jungle in search of Walt or something....
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(Date Posted:11/08/2005 16:05:55)
I saw the same clips and the pictures. The funeral of her dad, etc.... I think that we find out that she finds out that someone on the island is the one responsible for her father's death in a car accident - at least she thinks it's that person. If I wasn't pretty sure that it wasn't Kate, I would think it was her becuase of her driving.... Maybe she finds out that the daughter of the man that manufactured the faulty vehicle that killed her father is Sun. - but would that be enough of a reason to kill her - even if she is sleep deprived and hallucinating? Hummm.... tonight we'll know.
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(Date Posted:11/09/2005 16:48:55)
What happened turned out to be exactly what the previews alone suggested. But at least they lead up to it with lots for Sayid to deal with afterward so it will not just be glossed over afterward. We were talking about all of the irony in the last few moments:
Ana had just balled out Eko over Cindy being missing and told him that that one was on him.
Sayid had finally seen Walt.
Walt appeared to have been saying "shhh" the one time he didn't speak backwards and Shannon didn't listen.
And the fact that Ana shot an innocent person screaming the name of a person that she knew her new group members were looking for and knew that there was another innocent group they were walking towards....given the spoiler about her past, she really should have known better.
I do belive that Ana's position as leader of that group will come into question now....everyone with her should have been able to hear Shannon screaming "Walt" as she approached. So not only will Sayid be angry, but I'm sure that Michael will want to know what was going on, and will be angry that he will not get the answers to what Shannon heard and saw. We will have to see that few seconds from the tailies POV to know for sure.
And did you notice that Shannon said that Walt was scared and alone? I wonder how much of that will pan out?
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(Date Posted:12/14/2005 07:02:35)
OK - they have the opportunity to surprise us (kill someone off without leaking it).... A sudden, unexpected death would put fear in the viewers that their favorite character could die at any moment. Someone travelling through the woods falls off an unexpected cliff (like Jack almost did) or becomes monster food (like Locke almost did) or gets shot by accident (like Shannon did) or gets blown up (like Arnzt did) or as Monty Python would say - now for something completely different.
<-- now that's a big smile...
